Some of the big blogs say that dialovers applies to real life. Like. that it is an example of how love changes people and can heal them, make them better. One of the big oc blogs says that all the time, such as we should accept people the way they are if we love them enough. I can name two other blogs that have even said it is couple goals to love someone that much, like Yui loves the diaboys enough to change them. these kids uh don’t seem to know it is a fantasy and they would not want this irl

Admin Mawile: Love can help people, yes, but it’s not going to fix anyone. It has to be a person’s choice to better themselves, and no amount of loving them is going to make them better if they aren’t willing to improve themself. 

I get what you’re saying here, anon, and it sounds deeply worrying that some people think DL is a good idea in real life. 

Now, I hate to discourage anyone, but in the case of DL, it kind of has to be said. The idea that you can love someone abusive into treating you better is a dangerous, dangerous thing, and one that I’d hate to see younger fans of DL getting mixed up in. People should be loved and accepted, but that’s not an excuse. Loving someone doesn’t mean enabling them, and allowing people to treat you the way the boys treat Yui is just abuse. 

To anyone who thinks that the way that DL works is applicable to real life; it’s not. You can’t “fix” someone by loving them. 

(However, I am not saying that DL is bad. It’s wonderful, as long as the abuse and violence stay firmly planted in fiction-land. Just keep in mind, the way Yui “fixes” the boys is never how it works in real life.)

How to you think would be different if the Sakamakis ages were reversed? Subaru being the oldest Shu being the youngest etc

Admin Mawile: (*・∀・)ノ゛

Shuu: 

-As the youngest, Shuu would have a lot of pressure taken off of him. I imagine that, like with Reiji, Beatrix wouldn’t care too much about her younger son, and Shuu probably would have been allowed the freedom he got in canon. Without the whole “first son” issue, his friendship with Edgar could have gone very differently, too. Overall, I imagine that this Shuu would be in a much better place, mentally, than when he’s the eldest. 

Reiji:

-Since a lot of Reiji’s character has to do with his jealousy towards Shuu as the eldest, I imagine that Reiji would be very different in this situation. Not only would he have had the attention that he wanted from his mother, he never would have had to be Shuu’s second best. Reiji would probably be much less jealous and bitter overall, but I would picture that he’d have his sights on the position of heir… and be willing to do anything to get there. 

Ayato:

-I hate to say this, but if he’s not Cordelia’s oldest anymore… then he’s probably going to take Laito’s place. The lack of pressure to be the best would end in a pretty different personality, and the sexual abuse would probably result in a mindset more like Laito’s. I’d have to really think about how Ayato would react to an upbringing like that, but it’s definitely an interesting prospect. A whole different kind of abuse would likely change him completely. 

Kanato:

-For the most part, Kanato would be stuck in the same position he was in canon. As neither Cordelia’s oldest, nor her chosen toy, he’d go forgotten and ignored pretty much the same as what actually happened. I don’t see much of a change in him in this Au, save for his relationships to his more affected brothers. Since Laito would be assuming the position of Cordelia’s eldest, he’d probably be the one that Kanato treats more like a big brother. 

Laito:

-As Cordelia’s eldest, Laito now takes the place of the one that she’s pushing to be the best and surpass her rival’s heir. Laito would have had the same “be the best at everything or I have no need for you” treatment that Ayato got, and a whole lot less of the sexual abuse that made him such a pervert. This Laito would probably be much more closer to his true self, and might not bother with a facade of happy-go-lucky cheer to cover up his real feelings. 

Subaru:

Oh boy. As the oldest son and Karlheinz’s heir, Subaru would have a massive amount of pressure put on him. Much like Shuu in canon, he’d be expected to study constantly and have his personality crushed in order to be a better heir. However, assuming that nothing changed with Christa’s situation, he’d still have all of his canon issues, self hate, violent tendencies, and twisted self image on top of this. This Subaru is likely to be an absolute wreck, honestly… 

@badthingshappenbingo

Prompt: Backhand Slap

Character(s): Reiji, Beatrix

Warnings: Child abuse, mild self harming tendencies, general DL creepiness

Somehow, nothing Reiji did was ever enough.

He’d studied until he couldn’t possibly stay awake any longer, learned everything his mother required of him, and done whatever possible to be the perfect son, and yet, it wasn’t anywhere near what was expected of him.

No one had looked twice at his work. No one had given a second of attention to the second son who forever lived in his brother’s shadow.

Tension was building up in him, anger and frustration filling him up like molten metal, hot and threatening to set him aflame. He’d do anything, anything to have someone look at him as something other than Shuu’s second best, but that hopeful dream never came.

Reiji felt dangerously close to some kind of mental edge.

Recently, he’d been awake for nearly three days, drowning himself in ancient history texts that were apparently essential for a king.

(He’d always fought to keep up with Shuu’s curriculum on top of his own. Anything so that he wouldn’t fall behind and become even lesser than he had always been, lose his one worth as smart and dedicated.)

Unfortunately, for a child of a mere physical ten years of age, the stress was quickly getting the better of him. Reiji understood his body’s limits well by now, both in the scientific and the personal sense, and even though he was well aware that any further pressure would end in collapse, he couldn’t bring himself to stop before things ended badly.

Just one more paragraph. Just one more page. Just one more chapter. Little extensions quickly multiplied into hours spent reading just a little more, and before Reiji knew it, the sun was rising on morning four.

His eyelids felt so heavy that they may as well have been weighed down with lead. There was a dizzy nauseous headache building around his temples, and every instinct told him to get some rest before he made himself sick. And yet, Reiji couldn’t bring himself to listen.

But all too soon, he knew that he had to be down in the dining room for breakfast, to join his mother and Shuu for their morning meal.

So, Reiji forced himself to get up. He rose on shaky legs, fought the urge to let his eyes close, and descended the majestic wooden staircase to where his mother and brother would be waiting, likely impatient.

Breakfast itself was a tense, miserable affair, with Shuu poking at his  meal, and Beatrix glaring at both her sons with a long-suffering look. Reiji  ate his food quickly and neatly, trying not to draw his mother’s attention when she was in one of her unpleasant moods, but wishing to leave.

He still had piles of books to go through before he slept, after all.

The food tasted fine, but there was a nauseous feeling in the pit of Reiji’s of stomach that made him feel vaguely like spitting it out.

However, just as Reiji was standing up to leave, exhaustion got the better of him, and he slipped, plate falling to the floor and shattering with a deafening crash in the quiet room. Reiji himself was was left stumbling to the ground, toppling over onto his rear with an undignified thump.

A moment passed, silent. Shuu took the opportunity to slip away.

Next thing Reiji knew, Beatrix was hauling him to his feet by one arm, grip so rough he knew it would leave a dark, ugly bruise behind.

Before he had time to react, to stutter an apology through his sleep deprived mind, his mother slapped him with the back of her hand, whipping Reiji’s head to one side with the force of the hit.

It was familiar, the pain of his mother’s ire, and Reiji stayed silent. He was old enough to know that begging for forgiveness wouldn’t save him.

“Reiji, you clumsy child,” Beatrix hissed, and her voice was low and dangerous. There was something wild in her eyes, and Reiji had a feeling that that other woman had been tormenting her again. “Look what you’ve done! That was a good plate, and your inattention broke it.”

Bowing his head, Reiji swallowed the urge to defend himself.

None of his excuses would do any good, not when the most they amounted to were self-inflicted clumsiness. His mother would never accept an accident from him as anything less than failure.

She slapped him again, not quite as hard, but steadier, and then allowed Reiji to fall from her grasp, back onto his knees on the ground.

His glasses felt bent already, the arms brushing against his skin in an awkward way, and Reiji noticed that his hands were trembling. The hits hurt, yes, but there was something much worse coming. No stupid mistake would be allowed to slip by with something as minor as a slap or two.

Beatrix coldly ordered him to his room, eyes colder than they’d been over breakfast, and even though his head spun with every quick movement, both from the slaps and the lack of sleep, Reiji obeyed.

Shuu was long gone, Reiji noticed. He’d probably snuck off to go play somewhere, ignoring his lessons and making their mother even more irate.

Of course, Shuu never suffered for when Beatrix was upset. No, it was always Reiji who bore the brunt of her temper. It wasn’t fair, not in the slightest, and, knowing he was making an awful scowl, Reiji stormed back up to his room. He only barely resisted the childish urge to slam the door behind him, furious that he was always the one to be punished.

But once he was alone in his room, Reiji’s anger quickly faded. There was little point in allowing himself to stay worked up over it, unfortunately, no matter how it stung to always be the worthless one.

His mother would soon call him to be punished, Reiji knew. He could at least spend the time in between doing something productive.

So Reiji sat back down at his desk, and began to memorize another section in his textbook.

Admin Mawile: Sooo, I wound up signing up for what basically amounts to a torture and angst fic bingo card challenge! o(*’▽’*)/☆゚’ Of course, I’m going to be making some of my required fics DL related, and I suppose it can’t hurt to post them here! Everything will be appropriately labeled, but there will potentially be lots of gore and generally messed up themes~

Just, um, fair warning I guess >3>

I think you had made a post about male!Yui before. Can you make some headcanons about how he would treat a girl when he’s dating her? Thank you!

Admin Mawile: φ(*⌒▽⌒)ノ 

-Yuu is the actual sweetest boy to ever live. Whoever his partner would be, he’d be kind, dedicated, and loving, ready to do whatever he had to to reach out and make sure that his partner was loved. Considering his rather strict upbringing, he’d be quite the gentleman, and with a female partner, would be the picture of a chivalrous young man with a heart of gold. 

-Generally, he’d prefer traditional, overly romantic dates like a carnival, romantic movie, or quiet walk together. He wants to make his partner happy, though, and if they had other preferences, it wouldn’t be hard for him to adapt. He’s not good with anything too rough, but for the most part, he wants to do what makes the person he loves feel like they’re treasured. 

-Yuu has exceptional patience with his partner, and forgives remarkably easily. That’s not to say he’s a doormat, though, and he’s more than capable of standing up for himself should a relationship turn sour. Generally, though, he’s kind and accepting, and will do anything in his power to make his partner feel loved. He goes out of his way to please people close to him, and is extremely gentle and kind with the person that he treasures. 

How would the boys reacts to overhearing Karlheinz telling their s/o that the boys are treating her just like he treated their mothers, or how their mothers acted around him? I noticed the Sakamaki do act like their parents even though they disloke them…

Admin Mawile: (●>д<) I assume you mean just the Sakamaki?

Shuu:

-It’s too much trouble to worry about, so Shuu puts it out of his mind and tries not to think about it. Even so, the thought that he’s acting like his father hangs in his head for quite a while. He’s doomed to hurt anyone who gets close to him, though, so it’s not like there’s anything he can do to change. 

Reiji:

-The very idea that he could be behaving like his mother makes him want to choke someone. Considering how his childhood scarred him, Reiji would not be pleased with even thinking that he could be acting like his parents. Of course, his ego and pride are much too strong to allow any real change. 

Ayato:

-Hearing that he acts like his parents, even from that man is enough to send Ayato into a spiral of fury and doubt. He can’t stand the idea of being like either of his parents, and the fact that he can actually sort of see how he’s becoming might be enough to make him question his behavior a little bit. 

Kanato:

-Just hearing those things causes a massive tantrum, which he’s likely to take out on you, if only because you’re who’s there. He hates the idea of being like either of his parents, but is far too self absorbed to take the comments to heart. The most reaction that causes is a temper tantrum and tears. 

Laito:

-It does not sit well with him that he could be behaving like his parents. Laito is so locked in his own way of seeing the world that it’s unlikely that he’d change, but hearing that he’s turning into his parents will at least leave a seed of doubt, enough to make him think a little, for a long while to come. 

Subaru:

-Makes sense. As angry as it makes him to hear, he is a horrible, filthy being that only corrupts everyone who gets close to him. It’s just fitting that he’d grow up to do the same things his father did. The thought of it makes Subaru feel absolutely sick, but at the same time, it’s what he’s been expecting. 

As someone who personally hates pain and causing others to feel it, I don’t get the whole Sadist and Masochist thing. In DL though, it almost seems like they’re saying their negative treatment of Yui/The Reader is simply a product of how they were raised but that’s far from an excuse! The stuff they put Yui/You through is not ‘sexy’, most of it is down right abuse!! I don’t know if you talked about it before but what are your thoughts on the whole thing?

Admin Mawile: (●>д<)ノ That is a… complicated topic. 

First of all, Sadism and Masochism can be legitimate, perfectly acceptable sexual and non-sexual practices. The ways the boys do it is wayyyy wrong, but in itself, there’s nothing wrong with enjoying pain in a safe, sane, and consensual environment. 

The way the boys act is primarily a product of the way they were raised, but you’re right in that it’s not an excuse. The boys are meant to be damaged, yet genuinely terrible people. They’re not nice, they don’t treat Yui well, and yes, a lot of what they do is absolutely abuse. I would never deny that the boys’ actions are cruel and abusive. 

However, that’s where the fantasy comes in. 

The fantasy of DL is being able to win over a damaged, abused pretty boy and “fix” him through love. Yeah, some people are attracted to it for the masochism element, but what it boils down to is a power fantasy of fixing someone broken just by loving them enough. 

And this is completely a fantasy. There’s a clear border between reality and fiction, and DL is FAR on the fiction side of things. It’s not realistic; it’s nothing that anyone would want in real life. 

Some people have fantasies of swatting down anyone who challenges them with a single hit, and some people have fantasies of being able to “fix” someone by loving them enough, and that’s okay. As long as it stays in fantasy, these things are healthy and fun. There’s nothing wrong or bad about shipping yourself or your characters with the boys, and having that power fantasy is a 100% normal thing. 

The fun of it, though, is is that it’s not real. It’s fun to be able to imagine the boys in all kinds of situations, even reader insert, but if they were real, they’d be awful. DL is fiction at its core, and I highly doubt that anyone is saying that what the boys do should be encouraged or enjoyed in real life. 

In the end, DL is a work of fiction meant to be enjoyed. It’s safe and fun in fiction land, and as long as people can differentiate that the fantasies of the story aren’t okay in reality, it’s harmless. 

Can I request headcanons for human au Richter being sent to the mansion as prey for the reader?

Admin Mawile: (* ゚∀゚)ノシ

-When the vampire king isn’t satisfied with just Karlheinz’s sons, he’s forced to trick his own brother into “visiting” the mansion… with no intention of him ever coming back. Richter winds up as a last resort for getting Karl out of trouble, and when he finds out that he’s been betrayed for the sake of something so selfish, he’s absolutely furious… not to mention terrified of the vampire. 

-Richter is, as any sensible person would be, scared to death of the bloodthirsty creature that seems intent on draining him dry. He’s a coward at heart, and is willing to resort to any kind of dirty tricks or pathetic tactics he has to to avoid being killed by the monster he’s been forced to live with. He’ll beg and plead to be spared from punishment, anything to put you off of feeding from him any more than you have to. 

-Before long, though, his masochistic side starts showing up, most apparent when he moans while being bitten. The shame he feels is enough to make him sick, but at the same time, he’s feeling more and more attracted to the sadistic creature that takes such great pleasure in toying with him. He is receiving more attention than he has in his life, even if he has to hurt to get it. 

To be honest with you I’ve never liked shin so much as a character until I read through your pet au stuff, thank you for that! What would it take for shin to get his relebious spark back? Or at least be comfortable enough with an owner to let then know if he’s angry?

Admin Mawile: (*ゝω・)ノ Glad I could make you like him~

-Shin’s rebellious side is still there, it’s just buried under years of training and punishment. He’s naturally aggressive and independent, but he’s had his spirit crushed for so long that it’s hard for him to show it. He expects to be punished for any kind of poor behavior, and acts submissive mostly out of self preservation. Deep inside, he hates having to be looked down on by humans, but he knows better than to try to fight back. 

-What it would take for him to open up and show his true feelings would be a long time of being allowed and encouraged to act the way he wants to, not fit the mold of a perfect pet. If his owner made it very clear that they wanted him to have some spirit, not just be an empty shell, he’d eventually be able to get over his conditioning and act more on impulse again. However, it would be a rather slow change, as the kind of pain he’s been through has left a deep impression on him with how he’s to behave.