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Legit question here: who do you believe is true evil of the Diabolik Lovers universe? I would argue that it is Karlheinz, but I have seen others argue that the mothers are true evil.

Admin Mawile: To be honest, I think everyone in DL is somehow a victim. We don’t know the full backstories of Karl and the mothers yet, and there’s a lot of room for them to wind up close to, if not just as sympathetic as the boys. That’s not even starting on the massive grey area that is the morality of the characters that we’re even meant to like, and really, DL is majorly questionable when it comes to morality and what qualifies as a sympathetic character. Karl and the mothers could change a lot in upcoming games, for one, and it’s also hard to pin down a single “bad guy” to begin with. 

Basically what I’m getting at here is that DL is fiction, and there’s not a lot of point in fussing over which characters are “okay” to like. Within reason, a healthy dose of “fuck it, I’ll do what I want” is a good thing in fiction. I get that you’re just asking about who the “villain” is, anon, but that can turn into criticizing which characters people like and why pretty quick, so I feel like saying this much is kind of necessary.

Some of the big blogs say that dialovers applies to real life. Like. that it is an example of how love changes people and can heal them, make them better. One of the big oc blogs says that all the time, such as we should accept people the way they are if we love them enough. I can name two other blogs that have even said it is couple goals to love someone that much, like Yui loves the diaboys enough to change them. these kids uh don’t seem to know it is a fantasy and they would not want this irl

Admin Mawile: Love can help people, yes, but it’s not going to fix anyone. It has to be a person’s choice to better themselves, and no amount of loving them is going to make them better if they aren’t willing to improve themself. 

I get what you’re saying here, anon, and it sounds deeply worrying that some people think DL is a good idea in real life. 

Now, I hate to discourage anyone, but in the case of DL, it kind of has to be said. The idea that you can love someone abusive into treating you better is a dangerous, dangerous thing, and one that I’d hate to see younger fans of DL getting mixed up in. People should be loved and accepted, but that’s not an excuse. Loving someone doesn’t mean enabling them, and allowing people to treat you the way the boys treat Yui is just abuse. 

To anyone who thinks that the way that DL works is applicable to real life; it’s not. You can’t “fix” someone by loving them. 

(However, I am not saying that DL is bad. It’s wonderful, as long as the abuse and violence stay firmly planted in fiction-land. Just keep in mind, the way Yui “fixes” the boys is never how it works in real life.)

As someone who personally hates pain and causing others to feel it, I don’t get the whole Sadist and Masochist thing. In DL though, it almost seems like they’re saying their negative treatment of Yui/The Reader is simply a product of how they were raised but that’s far from an excuse! The stuff they put Yui/You through is not ‘sexy’, most of it is down right abuse!! I don’t know if you talked about it before but what are your thoughts on the whole thing?

Admin Mawile: (●＞д＜)ノ That is a… complicated topic. 

First of all, Sadism and Masochism can be legitimate, perfectly acceptable sexual and non-sexual practices. The ways the boys do it is wayyyy wrong, but in itself, there’s nothing wrong with enjoying pain in a safe, sane, and consensual environment. 

The way the boys act is primarily a product of the way they were raised, but you’re right in that it’s not an excuse. The boys are meant to be damaged, yet genuinely terrible people. They’re not nice, they don’t treat Yui well, and yes, a lot of what they do is absolutely abuse. I would never deny that the boys’ actions are cruel and abusive. 

However, that’s where the fantasy comes in. 

The fantasy of DL is being able to win over a damaged, abused pretty boy and “fix” him through love. Yeah, some people are attracted to it for the masochism element, but what it boils down to is a power fantasy of fixing someone broken just by loving them enough. 

And this is completely a fantasy. There’s a clear border between reality and fiction, and DL is FAR on the fiction side of things. It’s not realistic; it’s nothing that anyone would want in real life. 

Some people have fantasies of swatting down anyone who challenges them with a single hit, and some people have fantasies of being able to “fix” someone by loving them enough, and that’s okay. As long as it stays in fantasy, these things are healthy and fun. There’s nothing wrong or bad about shipping yourself or your characters with the boys, and having that power fantasy is a 100% normal thing. 

The fun of it, though, is is that it’s not real. It’s fun to be able to imagine the boys in all kinds of situations, even reader insert, but if they were real, they’d be awful. DL is fiction at its core, and I highly doubt that anyone is saying that what the boys do should be encouraged or enjoyed in real life. 

In the end, DL is a work of fiction meant to be enjoyed. It’s safe and fun in fiction land, and as long as people can differentiate that the fantasies of the story aren’t okay in reality, it’s harmless. 

Parental au: For some of the boys would they use like kindergarten techniques? Nap time, snack time, stickers for good behavior…

Admin Mawile: (｀･ω･´)ﾉ To be honest, basic behavioral techniques are practically necessary, considering where most of the boys are at in terms of decent behavior and mental age. However, if they ever figured out that that’s what you were doing, it would go very, very badly… Perhaps under the best possible circumstances, it would be effective, but being even the slightest bit patronizing is a dangerous game, no matter how childish some of the boys may be. 

I like the new au! Please tell more about it

Admin Mawile: (●´∀｀)ノ~

-So, the main idea is that, instead of being sent as a bride, the reader is sent as a parental substitute. In theory, they’re supposed to help the boys be less… terrible, but that doesn’t exactly go as planned. 

Like in canon, with Yui having major issues with romancing the boys, the reader has just as much trouble winning them over on the friendship side. They’re all still awful, and most of them outright reject the idea of needing anyone but themselves. It’s a long, slow process of kindness and making progress little by little, but in the end, it does pay off. 

Just how there’s a fluffier side with canon, where the boys genuinely love Yui and treat her sort of decently (in their own ways), this Au has an eventual similar point, where the relationship between them and the reader has reached a semi-healthy, semi-loving point. 

However, considering that I thrive off of fictional misery, I am 1000% open to situations within this Au that are angsty, painful, or otherwise messed up. I have no issues with making this dark >:3c

In short, it’s a version of canon where the relationship with the boys is platonic/parental instead of romantic. It has all the same issues and trials as in canon, but the end result is something sort of healthy and good. It’s still difficult, but there’s potential to for positive change. 

(to both admins) just curious, who’s your favorite boy(s) to write?

Admin Mawile: Skitty isn’t here right now (school is crushing her free time), so I’m the only one who can answer! 

And I don’t really have a favorite??? I like Carla for obvious reasons, but that’s very much just my bias. I guess I do have least favorites to write though, which are Shin and Yuuma. I always get stuck on their parts of requests ;w; I really hope I write them well enough, cause I tend to feel like I don’t…

not a request, just wanted to let you know that I simply adore your writing (it’s always well thought out and fluid), and I want to thank you for being such an active member in the community! I love your Aus (Human Au being a particular favourite) but I also really enjoy your longer work as well (It Takes A Lot Out Of You is such a heart-wrenching and well-paced story, I was super excited when it updated) and I hope you have a great week! <3 <3

Admin Mawile: Thank you! 😀 I do my best to stay active, and I’m glad people appreciate the work I put into (mostly) daily posts!

Longer work is honestly soooo fun to write, and my Ao3 is the place where I dump all my ideas for fandoms that I don’t have blogs for… And I have WAY more ideas than I’ve posted there!! :O